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  1. Leslie Hawthorn Leslie Hawthorn

    Lap dances @ hack days? Drawings of ejaculation on breasts during a tech preso? We can't explain Linux to girls? We can do much better, all.

    Monday, 19-Oct-09 22:29:51 UTC from Ping.fm
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    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @lh Hey, Bruce Perens and others insist that there's no problem here, at least none worth worrying about. =/ #shootmenow

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 22:37:53 UTC
    • Leslie Hawthorn Leslie Hawthorn David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @lefty Perhaps it is time for a code of conduct for the whole tech community? It's not just Open Source folks who run into this drek.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 22:42:03 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @lh Proprietary companies, like GOOG & AAPL, already have such codes: they're called HR guidelines. That's why they have 10x participation.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 22:44:33 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @lh "What about the poor guys with Asperger's who have to go without girlfriends? Who speaks for them?" http://bit.ly/4tdvVP #shootmenow

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 22:45:57 UTC
    • Leslie Hawthorn Leslie Hawthorn David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @lefty Show them this: http://bit.ly/1Y7SQt

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:00:31 UTC
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn

      @lh, it has been the worst year in my memory on this issues in my 15 years in FLOSS. I am just hoping storm is worst before it clears.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:10:03 UTC
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    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @lh Cool! Looks like a very useful resource!

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:12:36 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 And if you had two neurons to rub together, you'd realize whether or not ESR "attacks" MikeeUSA is not the issue.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:23:54 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 Moreover, if Bruce Perens, or any other "luminary", says witless things, I'm going to point out that they're smoking crack.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:25:27 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Too bad the FSF condones grossly sexist "humor" on the part of its President, huh?

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:26:15 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 Excuse me? What, exactly, are you talking about? (You might be interested to learn that cannibis is legal in the Netherlands.)

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:32:35 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Hey, look what's on _your_ side! http://identi.ca/notice/12431071

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:36:24 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn (or at least, _imagines_ it is...)

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:37:16 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 Do I? And what, precisely, would that be? Spell it out and show your evidence, coward.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:45:02 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 What about them?

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:45:18 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, actually. Trot it on out; otherwise, we can assume it's just another lie.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:47:03 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 Still waiting for you to explain what you're talking about. Going to accuse me of being a pedophile next? That'd be in character.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:54:07 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 Thanks for admitting that you accuse people of things without any evidence at all. "Free" software needs more pathological liars!

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:55:56 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 "Yet"? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow, Brandon, if you were _trying_ to slit the throat of your own credibility, you couldn't do any better.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:57:15 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 Whatever you say, liar. You keep proving that you can't tell truth from fiction, or just don't care, with every posting here.

      Monday, 19-Oct-09 23:58:57 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 And "someone else who is going to do this"? Is it because you're too much of a coward, or that you have nothing to show?

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 00:01:50 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 Ah, but what you say matters to others. Now everyone who reads this knows that you're given to gross lies, and a coward to boot.

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 00:03:26 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @ender2070 The fact that you're nothing but a childish muppet is not a particular surprise to anyone.

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 00:04:08 UTC
    • Dylan McCall Dylan McCall David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @lefty : I think it would be more fun if you just blocked and ignored ender. It would be a fun experiment: what will he find to do instead?

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 00:29:35 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger Dylan McCall

      @dylanmccall I've considered it. However, I suspect he'd continue to talk smack and escalate it. He can't prove I'm a pedophile "yet"...?

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 00:31:23 UTC
    • Liz Henry Liz Henry Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn It doesn't seem at all worse to me - better, b/c more people are speaking up at once, in public.

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 01:31:34 UTC
    • Evan Prodromou Evan Prodromou Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn it's been an uncomfortable, frustrating, and sometimes scary year. But we have to be aware of the problem before we can fix it.

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 01:37:32 UTC
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    • Jan Wildeboer Jan Wildeboer Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn it always gets worse before it gets good. So it is simple. We are almost there. Keep it goin.

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 01:41:00 UTC
    • Leigh Honeywell Leigh Honeywell Liz Henry

      @lizhenry more flashlights = more bugs :)

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 02:33:19 UTC
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Liz Henry

      @lizhenry, I think sexism is now worse. Maybe b/c lower avg age of FLOSS hacker? e.g.:"How to perform" talk wouldn't have happened in 1990s.

      Tuesday, 20-Oct-09 12:46:24 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Maybe because of bad examples (aka "harmless fun") from the "leaders" of the "free software movement"....?

      Wednesday, 21-Oct-09 11:06:25 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger Jan Wildeboer

      @jwildeboer Almost _where_? Where _every_ presentation will be offensive, and the people who point it out will be _universally_ abused?

      Wednesday, 21-Oct-09 11:09:24 UTC
    • David "Lefty" Schlesinger David "Lefty" Schlesinger

      @evan From my point of view, you'd have to be catatonic to be unaware of the problem. And plenty of folks insist there's no problem at all.

      Wednesday, 21-Oct-09 11:10:31 UTC

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