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    FSF launches free software extension listing for OpenOffice.org -- http://ur1.ca/zj2r !fsf !gnu !lp #openoffice !fs

    Friday, 07-May-10 20:56:32 UTC from web at Boston, Massachusetts, United States
    • Bradley M. Kuhn, John Sullivan and Matt Lee and 3 others like this.
    • Adrian Yanes, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier and Bradley M. Kuhn repeated this.
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn

      Proprietary drift: the long term threat that sneaks up on software freedom & requires constant vigilance to prevent: http://ur1.ca/zolj

      Saturday, 08-May-10 16:47:10 UTC
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    • Ingolf Schaefer Ingolf Schaefer Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn @fsf Why isn't the link to the licenses on http://ur1.ca/gb9h good enough? Is a separate incomplete list good?

      Saturday, 08-May-10 17:09:07 UTC
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Ingolf Schaefer

      @ovidius, a site encouraging rewrite of proprietary ones & vets license is definitely useful. Ideally, OO.o site would list only FaiF ones.

      Saturday, 08-May-10 17:49:56 UTC
    • Ingolf Schaefer Ingolf Schaefer Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Maybe one could just ask OO.o to add a filter by license button, but I doubt that anyone asked them.

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:17:48 UTC
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Free Software Foundation , Ingolf Schaefer

      @ovidius, !fsf asked OO.o stop listing proprietary extensions. A warning window when proprietary plugins are installed would be good too.

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:18:56 UTC
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    • Łukasz Jernaś Łukasz Jernaś Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn While I strongly believe in FaiF I also believe in stuff that works. Sadly some FaiF supporters would call me evil because of that

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:21:19 UTC
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    • Ingolf Schaefer Ingolf Schaefer Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Yes and I see that they cannot do that. My proposal was more modest. You could have linked to a filtered site then.

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:21:31 UTC
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Łukasz Jernaś

      @deejay1,I like "stuff that works",but it isn't part of my morality; software freedom is. (I avoid word #evil FWIW;I wouldn't call you that)

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:24:49 UTC
    • Łukasz Jernaś Łukasz Jernaś Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn We should make people aware of the drift, not forbid it by calling names (like I feel many anti ubuntuone/novell sites/posts do)

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:26:17 UTC
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Ingolf Schaefer

      @ovidius,I think both proposals are worth making to OO.o community; I will try to pass along your proposal to whoever is negotiating w/ them

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:26:42 UTC
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Łukasz Jernaś

      @deejay1,I'm against name-calling,but do believe FaiF is a morality issue;I realize word #evil was misunderstood,which is why I now avoid it

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:29:01 UTC
    • Alison Chaiken Alison Chaiken Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Have you seen Jim Zemlin's videos contrasting RMS and Steve J? I am truly grateful to RMS, but the videos make an important point

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:30:41 UTC
    • Ingolf Schaefer Ingolf Schaefer Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn You're just great. ;-)

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:30:56 UTC
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    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Alison Chaiken

      @alisonchaiken, I commented on them already: ur1.ca/zpgb cutting together clips out of context to make fun of someone doesn't advance debate

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:34:17 UTC
    • Łukasz Jernaś Łukasz Jernaś Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn #Morality is a word I'd like to avoid, because it isn't universal across time and space.(IMHO)

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:53:32 UTC
    • Alison Chaiken Alison Chaiken Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn The tin-foil part was a low blow, but the rest of the comparison contrasting marketing styles makes a valid point in my opinion.

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:53:53 UTC
    • Łukasz Jernaś Łukasz Jernaś Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn But yes, I would like to have #ubuntuone FaiF-ed, but it seems there's only 36 of us (http://ur1.ca/jtnc)

      Saturday, 08-May-10 19:54:18 UTC
    • Blaise Alleyne Blaise Alleyne Bradley M. Kuhn

      @fsf @bkuhn awesome. any plans to do this for other popular FaiF applications with non-FaiF extensions (e.g. Firefox/IceWeasel)?

      Monday, 10-May-10 18:53:58 UTC
    • Osama Khalid Osama Khalid Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Good post. I'm going to translate it (thank you for allowing me to spread the word by using BY-SA!) P.S. "this this new initiative".

      Saturday, 15-May-10 14:42:15 UTC
    • Luis A. Morán Morales Luis A. Morán Morales Free Software Foundation , Free Software , Osama Khalid

      @osamak, Great idea! I can write a Spanish translation. Actually, I should volunteer to translate !fs essays, documentation, etc. :) !fsf

      Thursday, 10-Jun-10 05:56:06 UTC
    • Osama Khalid Osama Khalid Luis A. Morán Morales

      @lamm they're always a lot of things to be translated. If you are interested, pleasse join GNU Spanish Translation team. It's really helpful

      Thursday, 10-Jun-10 06:10:42 UTC
    • Osama Khalid Osama Khalid Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn It's finally here http://wp.me/pImPT-5b .. "better late than never"? Could you please link to it?

      Thursday, 10-Jun-10 13:50:55 UTC
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn GNU's Not Unix , Osama Khalid

      @osamak, Thanks for translating it! I updated the main page to link back to it. Do you do translations for !gnu .org as well?

      Thursday, 10-Jun-10 19:50:51 UTC
    • Osama Khalid Osama Khalid Bradley M. Kuhn

      @bkuhn Thank you. Yes, that's mainly my task as an FSF intern.

      Thursday, 10-Jun-10 19:55:36 UTC
    • Bradley M. Kuhn Bradley M. Kuhn Free Software Foundation , Osama Khalid

      @osamak, thanks for your volunteer work to help !fsf ! The FSF was built on healthy volunteer effort & it can't exist without it.

      Thursday, 10-Jun-10 19:56:53 UTC
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