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@pfctdayelise What exactly do you mean by "magic" regarding http://ur1.ca/57c48 ?
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user pastes link (not embed code) => embedded video appears
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It's been like that since I left the company, no? oembed and file uploads features were written at the same time.
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We did some overhaul on that last year but it's similar; mostly does thumbnails instead of the pop-up embed view now though.
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@brionv Out of context? Was this supposed to be a reply or a DM or something?
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@catrope Oh wait, it's API breakage. StatusNet doesn't display the @foo bit for replies anymore, but displays it differently in the UI
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More a human interface breakage.:) Context info is there, but in Twitter-like clients it may be unclear, as most replies now don't have @.
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So, should we just prepend the "@" to the plain-text content if it's not there?
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That's what I was thinking.
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@evan Or should API consumers do it?
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@brionv I wasn't implying there was nothing new, hey ;-) [I think I prefer old-style @explicit replies]
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@jasonriedy sticking it in the plain-text content on the server end is probably good for non-SN-specific clients (tho could go over limit)
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@brionv That would emulate the T-world methods... Perhaps those API endpoints could append the @-name.
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API consumers should do it, but I think a lot don't.
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Actually, Twitter doesn't do that for replies without an @.
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@brionv TTYtter would be an example of a client where that would be a neat fix but limits would remain an issue
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Interesting, thanks. Didn't know that.
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@evan yes, that would be much better - *even* in tree-view convos which actually give most context - dent & reply can be far apart
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It wouldn't be for the Web UI.
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@evan until now pressing the "reply to this notice" button was the user equivalent of adding @name to the plain text of a dent
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@evan well, we can always repair that with a user script, can't we? ;)
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No, it certainly wasn't.
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@evan In the previous version of !Identica (web), when I pressed the curly arrow - "reply to this notice" button - @name appeared in msg
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@evan it is reasonable to assume I've misunderstood tech jargon, but that is certainly what appeared to transpire
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@laurelrusswurm actually, it still does for me in IE7
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@evan it certainly was but it also was (and is) possible to remove it and still have the dent 'connected' to the one it's in reply to
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@laurelrusswurm not appeared, DID. and still does for me in IE7 ;)
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No, it wasn't equivalent. You could do one without the other, both ways.
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One of the reasons we do things without @-replies by default is because they're confusing and jargon-y.
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Yes! That did happen.
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i disagree. that's like saying email is confusing. I find it much more confusing NOT knowing whose timeline and replies…
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@evan that reply was accidentally a perfect case in point, provided you saw it :)
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what I see. note: no ">username" was it delivered or not? you're a busy man, i can't assume your read your entire timel…
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one more thing to consider: I follow a small group of people in friendfeed (to see things i miss in my busier timeline …
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Confusing and jargon-y? When so many sites use them? I think that day passed 3 years ago.
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@evan To me it seems essential when dents are directed. If I am in a room talking to one person, addressing other by name is optional...
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@evan ... when in a ballroom full of people, it's often possible to infer who is addressed by gesture, body language, eye contact...
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@evan ... but if participating in a telephone conference call with a mere dozen, even with voice differentiation names are essential...
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@evan ...here we have no visual or aural cues, so potential for miscommunication increases exponentially when feeds cross bridges.
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@evan Typing @name may have been jargony once, but I've seen it used in Facebook and CBC comments. I'll keep typing @name if not automatic
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@evan It seems the opposite for me. It is a message viewable by many therefore it's more confusing *without* the @name.
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@evan replies *without* @-addressees are actually way more confusing! why make it hard on people who DO want to use @?
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@evan I'm glad though you said 'by default' there! so you're going to give us a choice, aren't you?
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@exador23 thanks for mentioning that use case - that's one I hadn't thought of.
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Why would you use the @ replies, when you can see it in the post "nicknames headline", and you're able to see it in the comments "dropdown".
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I really like not to have @ replies in the posts, because without those it looks a lot more smooth, and professional.
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@evan you still can do both - the only difference is that it's now *harder* to @-address someone if you want, and many DO want that
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@kaspernymand have you looked at someone else's profile who doesn't use @-addr? looks like they're talking into thin air #unprofessional
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That's why, I suggest the developers to add the "[Sender] > [Target]" post headline to the profiles too.
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Doesn't work for me on Chrome.
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@kaspernymand good point - but that can't happen with 3rd party tools liek FriendFeed: they'll still lack important context
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Maybe the API could transform the post, and add the [Target] to the outgoing post. So that FriendFeed etc. would get the post like normal.
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@kaspernymand see here: http://identi.ca/attachment/53939373 - I'm not sure FF even uses the API; certainly others may not
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Then they have to use it. ;-)
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Maybe they could even make some "Tabs" on the "Profile"-pages. One called "Status", one called "Replies", one called "Repeats", etc.
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Wow, I never expected such a long thread (compare http://millette.status.net/conversation/52512 and http://identi.ca/conversation/84262208 for instance)
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